Writer's Support Room - Open Forum Transcripts

Event start time: Fri Apr 13 19:54:19 2007
Event end time: Fri Apr 13 21:04:59 2007


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Here is the Highlights Wish List mentioned in this chat transcript:

Dear Author,

Every few months, Highlights editors compile a list of their current needs to share with prospective authors. Below, you will find a detailed description of the types of stories Highlights editors are currently seeking. You may also find these updates at www.Highlights.com. Follow the "About Us" link to "Contributor Guidelines," and you will see "Current Needs" listed in the right-hand column.

Thank you for your interest in Highlights. Happy writing!

Sincerely,
The Editors

Highlights Winter Wish List 2006-2007

Kim Griswell, Coordinating Editor

Adventure
Articles that feature adventurous travel. Not the "family vacation" kind of thing, unless your family goes to study turtles in the Galápagos Islands, as does the author of "Stars and Sea Lions" (June 2006). We prefer articles that feature kids in some way. Publishable-quality photos are almost essential for these articles, since it would be difficult (or impossible) for us to acquire photos if the writer couldn't provide them. Please remember that even adventure articles need a focus--not simply "We went here and did this," but something that reveals the meaning behind the travel or the reason for the adventure, etc., 750 words maximum.

Marileta Robinson, Senior Editor

Fiction for Young Readers
We need humorous stories written for beginning readers, 500 words maximum.

Carolyn Yoder, Senior Editor

World Cultures

  • Intimate looks at other peoples and their traditions--particularly in northern and southern Africa, Asia (not India), Europe, Canada, the Caribbean and the Pacific. (Articles on children.)
  • Holidays--first person.
  • U.S. History
  • Modern history (20th century), particularly the Civil Rights movement
  • Holidays, particularly Christmas and Thanksgiving
  • Articles that touch on the diversity of people in the United States
  • Biographies of U.S. subjects as children
  • Anecdotal articles on George Washington and Abraham Lincoln
  • Articles on patriotic themes
  • HUMOROUS articles on U.S. history (review back issues for articles on Lincoln and humor, Washington and his teeth, Jefferson getting his life mask, and Ben Franklin and his love of exercise)

Judy Burke, Senior Editor

Fiction for 8- to 12-year-olds
We're currently looking for funny stories with boy protagonists, Easter stories (no Easter bunnies, please), Kwanzaa stories, Ramadan stories, Hanukkah stories, Passover stories, and contemporary stories set in foreign countries, 800 words maximum.

One-Page Activities: We're interested in 300-word activities of all kinds. At this time, we're especially interested in indoor and outdoor games that involve exercise, creativity, and/or humor.

Sports We could especially use profiles of contemporary female athletes. We're always interested in sports articles that focus either on a known athlete (a squeaky-clean one), on the development of specific skills (for example, shooting a basketball), or on the challenges faced by athletes of any kind (for example, staying positive when your team is losing). Successful articles often include quotes gained from personal interviews with athletes or experts and useful tips for readers who play that sport, 800 words maximum.

Andy Boyles, Science Editor

Science and Nature Articles -- We put a high value on articles that show science as a process--that is, articles that follow a scientist or group of scientists as they try to solve one of nature's mysteries or that show someone of elementary-school age engaging with nature in a healthy, inquisitive way.

We are always looking for science articles about animals that are of high interest to kids. For example, an article might follow researchers who study cougars or a young person who is involved with horses. The article may cover a long period of time or tell the adventures of one day, but information about the animals and/or the research should arise naturally in the course of the action, so our readers will learn something about both.

Also, we are in need of short Science Corner pieces that inspire young readers to explore the science in their everyday environment or to do a simple activity or experiment. See a recent issue for the format. We also look for safe, fun one-page experiments (400 words or fewer) more in-depth than those found in the Science Corner. These activities should introduce kids to some greater concept and require minimal parental involvement.

We currently have enough articles about birds, reptiles, amphibians, insects (especially bees), and volcanoes. Having said that, a clear storyline that reveals the process of science is a strong component. If we received a good story about a scientist studying birds that live on a volcano and eat reptiles that have a symbiotic relationship with amphibians that eat insects (even bees), we'd probably buy it.

Our guidelines state that our word limit is 800, but articles that are even shorter (350-400 words) are especially welcome as possible one-page features. Interesting approaches to botany, chemistry, anatomy, and geology and the earth sciences, are welcome.

Joëlle Dujardin, Associate Editor

Crafts -- We have a need for original crafts that encourage play, such as toys, costumes, and games, as well as open-ended art projects. We're also seeking crafts that are appealing to boys, holiday crafts, and crafts from various cultures.

Younger Nonfiction -- Younger nonfiction should be written for readers ages 4-8 and should not exceed 450 words. Things we're looking for include first-person accounts of fieldwork, photo essays, arts stories, accessible biographies of key historical figures, ancient history, high-interest animals, details from urban life (workers, transportation, etc.). All articles should have a clear focus and relevance to young kids.

Gallant Kids -- We're looking for leads or articles about kids who take an active role in making positive changes in their communities. Articles should be 350 words or fewer, and the child featured should be no older than 13.

Linda Rose, Assistant Editor

Full-Page Puzzle Activities -- On the inside-back cover of each issue, we publish a large visual puzzle of some sort. We like to vary the kind of puzzle presented here, and we're always looking for fresh ideas that appeal to a variety of readers and abilities. Often this page offers several activities within one (for example, using one illustration for a maze, a few riddles, a "find the..." puzzle, etc.). Submissions to this area ideally include detailed art directions/notes, as well as succinct and easily understood activity directions for the reader. (Artwork or photos do not need to be submitted with the manuscript but are welcome if you have them.)

Tiffany Hoffman, Editorial Intern

Short Activities -- We're looking for short puzzles, activities, teasers, and interesting tidbits to go on our mixed pages. We are especially interested in math puzzles--that do not resemble school activities--and games of all kinds. We do not encourage writing in our magazine, so please do not submit activities that would require children to write or draw on the page.

Tips and Resources

Highlights recommends reviewing the magazine's contributor guidelines available on www.Highlights.com in the About Us section. Also, it can be helpful to read through back issues, which can be found at most local libraries. For examples of stories, articles, and crafts we have published in the past, visit www.HighlightsKids.com, click on "Fun Finder" in the left column, then peruse "Highlights Stories" under Story Soup, "Science Stories" under Science in Action, and "Crafts" under Express Yourself.

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janfields Night Open Forum begins in Five Minutes -- It's open topic so be sure to hit me with all your writing questions. In five minutes.
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janfields Night Open Forum begins in Two minutes...join Jan Fields (me) in the auditorium to chatter about all manner of things related to writing.
janfields Howdy folks, welcome to ICL's Night Open Forum. I'm Jan Fields, web editor of the Institute of Children's Literature.
janfields I'm delighted to see such a huge collection of folks in the auditorium.
janfields I hope y'all have had a chance to check out all the wonderful poems in our Writing poetry contest.
janfields I'm working on an idea for a new contest with some cool writing software as a prize.
janfields More details pending!
janfields Oh, the poems are at....
janfields http://www.institutechildrenslit.com/rx/ws01/poetrycontest.shtml
janfields You can see the winning poem by Ev Christensen
janfields And lots of WONDERFUL honorable mentions
janfields And the cool comments by our judges on quite a few poems.
janfields Now, I'm glad to see y'all...anyone have a question?
janfields Something juicy
janfields And tough?
janfields Ahhh...aura got a card from Highlights.
janfields Highlights has a collection of "Please Bear With Us" cards
janfields With slightly different messages.
janfields What they mean is
janfields That you passed the PRIMARY reader
janfields The one who screens out manuscripts that don't work at all for Highlights
janfields And your manuscript is moving on to the editor who handles that section.
janfields Because it's considered a possible match with Highlight's needs.
janfields Often those cards are followed by an acceptance but it's not a sure thing.
janfields Because you still have one more editor to go through.
janfields Hey, good...it's nice to know you're first submissions was good enough to be a "contender."
soradina If the normal response time for a submission is stated as 4
soradina to 6 weeks but it has been longer than that since hearing
soradina from an editor does that mean it is a good or a bad sign?
janfields Well, it can be...
janfields It can also mean they're just behind
janfields Which almost everyone is.
janfields Usually the only "BAD" sign is the really really fast rejection
janfields because it means either
janfields (1) your piece didn't match what they needed at all.
janfields or
janfields (2) they aren't really reading unsolicited manuscripts
janfields Now, if they say 4 - to - 6 weeks and it's been 6 months...
janfields they are either really vacillating
janfields Or they lost it.
janfields So...response time is not exactly a science :-)
janfields Aura wants to know if I have any more info on the ING contest.
janfields It's only open to US citizens (mild boo)
janfields And my guess is that they plan to use the stories in bank promo
janfields So, the fact that they are "publishing" them isn't exactly the same as if a publisher is publishing them.
janfields They do want a lot of rights, but they aren't exclusive
janfields Basically, since the focus of the story has to be specific --
janfields money, savings, stuff like that --
janfields it might be fun.
janfields But you're dealing with folks who don't exactly know much about children's writing.
janfields Cause...they say sorta doofy stuff like it being easy to write a children's story
janfields But they clearly like kids and are hoping to get a nifty story
janfields And some fun...contests are fun.
rainchain In a mid grade can I switch POVs to show antagaonist thought
janfields I've seen a lot of middle grade novels that switch point of view, for all sorts of reasons.
janfields Middlegrade is usually considered sophisticated enough for viewpoint shifts.
janfields Right now, shifting viewpoints are a BIT out of favor with editors
janfields But like almost anything...if you do it well...you can do it.
janfields Shifting to the antogonist viewpoint can help flesh out your antagonist
janfields And be an interesting choice.
janfields I generally don't shift viewpoint because my narration tends to be very close, but for writers with a more dramatic narration style, viewpoint shifts can work just fine.
lilyphenix Most agents do not represent PB. However if your ms got
lilyphenix accepted, will they accept to handle the negotiations and
lilyphenix represent you? Just curious.
janfields Some are open to that.
janfields Some are not.
janfields It depends on a number of factors.
janfields (1) Whether you are primarily a picture book writer and intend to continue to be that.
janfields (2) Whether you have substantial credits, suggesting writing is going to be a long term commitment for you.
janfields (3) Whether your offer is from a publisher who can be negotiated into good money.
janfields Because agents don't just sign on for a single property.
janfields So though they are negotiating a deal you started...
janfields your next deal is likely to be one requiring real work from them.
janfields So they want to know they are likely to make money through you long term before signing you on.
janfields However, some agents like PB more than others...so that also plays a part.
janfields Nothing is a hard and fast rule these days.
craftymama are there any online poetry sites that are looked at fondly by publishers?
janfields Not that I know of.
janfields Editors don't look "down" on online poetry publication (except Poetry.com)
janfields It's just that poetry is something they look at not based on your credits
janfields but on the quality you're creating right now
janfields It's such an "art" compared ot a craft...the way storytelling can be.
janfields So you might do wonderful stuff for along time then sorta fall a part
janfields So they look at it moment by moment.
lilyphenix About Highlights, their wish list is dated from June 2006;
lilyphenix Do you think it is still accurate? As well as the name of
lilyphenix the editors?
janfields I am virtually certain none of the editors have changed...I would have heard.
janfields As for what they are looking for...that is probably different
janfields But it does mean we're likely to be seeing new wish lists soon...I shall drop them a line and see.
craftymama Is it okay to submit mutiple submittions to the same (or mutiple) magazines about the same subject as long as each article has a different focus?
janfields It depends.
janfields If you are sending to magazines with overlapping markets
janfields Like...oh...highlights and spider
janfields And the topic is the same, but a different focus
janfields Highlights is going to be annoyed if they find out
janfields Because they like to feel like they are doing something very different from the "competition"
janfields though the approach to nonfiction in a Highlights article is so different than that of the Carus group.
janfields So, it's best if you look for magazines that may have less overlap
janfields either in time (because you know say...you're submitting for the 2013 issue of Hopscotch but maybe a soon issue of Spider (God willing)
janfields of a decidely different focus...so
janfields say
janfields you could have the subject "birds:
janfields And one magazine could get "bird migration linked to magnetism"
janfields and another could get "amazing bird feet"
janfields and neither would mind
janfields But if one got "bird migration linked to magnetism"
janfields and the other got -- "Who flies farthers -- wild migration tales"
janfields Some magazines could get cranky.
janfields Not different enough in focus.
janfields I hope that helped some.
janfields It can be tricky.
lilyphenix Jan, do you know a bit how National Geographic for Kids
lilyphenix work?
janfields I talked to an editor at National Geographic last year
janfields He was the big guy at EXPLORER
janfields But all the NG family is some similar
janfields They PRIMARILY want articles BY experts
janfields Not just about experts, but actually written by field experts.
janfields However, barring that
janfields They will accept articles by writers in contact with field experts.
janfields They don't want book sources except as backup to interviews.
janfields NG considers itself to be "on the edge" in terms of sourcing...they like to see themselves as actually going where the news is breaking
janfields That's why where put so much emphasis on experts and researchers.
janfields Which was really kinda a bummer in the interview.
rainchain In a fantasy mid grade where you need info the mc doesnt hav
rainchain are there alternatives to pov switching?
janfields I would have to think about that rain.
janfields I have ...hmmmm...slid point of view a bit
janfields Where I only got inside the head of one character
janfields But sometimes went to a different scene and just looked around...as if I were a fly on the wall, describing but not being in anyone's head
janfields So that's a switch from third person close to third person dramatic
janfields Which can work to feed info, if you can feed it by observation...I've seen that done.
janfields Otherwise...you probably have to switch.
monkee Regarding Laptops for any Canadian students who have one...
monkee Dell has got a Class Action lawsuit against them - Inspiron
monkee Series. As you can see, I'm having problems!
janfields Just a little FYI...I actually didn't know that.
janfields Sorry to hear about your computer woes.
craftymama do you have to have an agent to get an article or book published?
janfields Agents don't deal with articles/stories
janfields Unless they are already your agent
janfields And they are pushing you to do something as publicity
janfields Then they might work with a magazine.
janfields It's kind of rare.
janfields Agents would prefer not to deal with picture books, most of the time.
janfields And many writers sell picture books without agents.
janfields There are still plenty of houses open to unagented pb writers.
janfields Agents love novel writers...but agents are still kind of hard to get
janfields And it's time consuming
janfields And there are still quite a number of houses open to novelists
janfields Without agents.
janfields So...you don't HAVE to have an agent.
janfields But, it is getting increasingly harder to sell novels without agents.
janfields It's not impossible.
janfields And it still might be easier to sell novels to the open houses than it is to get an agent.
monkee Are kids wasting a lot of time reading blogs like adults?
janfields Kids read a lot of blogs
janfields And older kids spend time on myspace too
janfields It depends on age
janfields The older the kid, the more you can reach them with online content.
rainchain Jan congratulations on Kidmag
rainchain placing 2 in writers digest
janfields Thank you...
janfields And another coolio thing
janfields In this August's Children's Writer's and Illustrator's Market
janfields from Writers Digest
janfields They will be using an interview with me
janfields An "insider report"
janfields I don't consider myself much of an insider, but I surely thought that was nifty.
janfields And I think my head is bigger as a result...bad, very bad.
janfields Awww.thanks.
lizziegirl I am trying to get my brother (14) to start submiting his
lizziegirl writing. I think its good he doesn't. Any suggestions?
janfields You can't make someone sell things.
janfields You could show him the young writer markets in the CWIM
janfields and at KMW (though our young writer markets are really a bit dated)
janfields And in the ICL market guides.
janfields Maybe trying to sell against his peers will be less intimidating to start out
janfields than trying to jump right in with adults.
janfields But, when I was 14...lots of folks thought my writing was good.
janfields But I never submitted because...I knew it could be better.
janfields And within a few years, it was and I was comfortable selling.
janfields So, sometimes you gotta let someone discover stuff on his own.
janfields Of course, he might also be enjoying the fact that you think his writing is great!
coloradokate Jan, I have a Highlights wishlist dated 2/2/07 - is there some way I can share it here?
janfields Can you cut and paste into that room?
janfields Otherwise...you could email it to me
janfields And I would be happy to put it in the transcript.
janfields And in the newsletter
janfields And...by the way, that's awfully nice that you want to share.
janfields Yeah, right there.
janfields I can port it
janfields But I don't think you could send that much stuff through the "ask" features.
lilyphenix Jan, do you know if the market for early reader is open? For
lilyphenix non-fiction stories for example?
janfields I'm afraid Early readers is about my least well informed area.
janfields I know that Early readers are still selling well
janfields And that virtually always translates into market interest
janfields But I also know that a lot of publishers are doing them on assignment
janfields So you have to send a proposal and samples rather than sending the finished early reader
janfields when it's nonfiction
janfields Even though that seems kind of silly for such short work.
craftymama What do you mean by an Open House and how do you tell if a publishing house is one?
janfields An "open house" is just one that accepts manuscripts or queries from unagented writers.
janfields And you usually have to have a current market guide to know which are
janfields You can usually find lots and lots of market info online
janfields but by the time you've tracked it all down and gathered it all up
janfields You're really better off to spend the for a market guide (or whatever they cost)
janfields Also, SCBWI puts out a guide
janfields Though theirs is HORRIBLY out of date very fast
janfields And they really don't take proper care to weed out questionable companies.
aura whitcomb Any advice for a first time pb submission?
janfields If it's long (over 800 words) start with the smaller houses
janfields Charlesbridge, Peachtree, etc
janfields If it's "literary" or "quiet" -- same advice, start small
janfields Big houses are shying away from those unless it's with "known" authors
janfields If it has lots of action, quirky characters, a strong dramatic arc, and it's short
janfields Then I would try the bigger houses
janfields And I would send it out to about two houses at a time.
janfields I wouldn't sim sub to all of them
janfields Because what if an editors gives you great feedback but doesn't want to see it again
janfields But it was EXACTLY something you needed to do to make it better
janfields But you've already sent the "bad" version to everyone?
janfields You're hosed.
janfields Becuase NO ONE wants to see corrected versions of manuscripts in the slush
janfields Unless they ask for it.
janfields So, never send to all the markets in one clump.
aura whitcomb I'm on assgt 8 and doing mrkt research. Is web based resrch
aura whitcomb better than printed (ICL) guide based research?
janfields I do both
janfields I virtually always start with my market guides.
janfields Then I make a list of the magazines that sound like good possibles
janfields Then I track down the websites online
janfields And I read anything anyone might be saying about the magazines.
janfields Usually if you Google by the magazine title
janfields You'll find their website but also posts about the magazine
janfields on discussion boards
janfields Where you can learn a lot
janfields I figure I put a lot of time into writing something
janfields i can put just as much time into finding the right place to send it
janfields Because I HATE HATE HATE rejection
janfields and MOST rejections of good writers are simply bad market matching
janfields So the more I put into market matching, the fewer rejections I get
janfields So...read the guides, look online, track down a magazine if you can.
lizziegirl Would contests be a good place to start for my brother?
janfields Contests can be great
janfields No rejections
janfields And there's the "fun" element
janfields Plus somehow it hurts less to "not win" than it does to "get rejected"
janfields So that might be good.
janfields But you really make more sales just to submit.
ccollier Jan, how many magazines have you been published in roughly?
janfields I always publish gently, cc
janfields But seriously...a couple dozen maybe
janfields That includes weird locals
janfields And parenting
janfields And online
janfields And magazines/newsletters about writing
janfields And kid magazines
janfields And craft magazines
janfields And religious magazines for youth leaders.
janfields I'm eclectic...that's a really nice intellectual way to say "flighty"
janfields I don't list all my credits even on my resume because some of them are defunct...a lot of them, really, though I swear I don't kill magazines.
janfields And some of them really are too local to impress anyone.
janfields But when I had more time to write, I wrote for EVERYONE
janfields Heck, I even wrote package lift for a friend for his toy company.
janfields I have to say no a lot more these days.
janfields Oh...package lift is the crap they write on the sides of packages to convince you that you have to cough up your hard earned money and buy the thing.
lilyphenix So, Jan, how do we best match-market?
janfields I do it buy reading the magazines.
janfields Honestly, when I started in magazines...I didn't know people actually MADE market guides
janfields I honestly didn't
janfields I was totally in the dark
janfields But I knew the stuff in magazines came from somewhere
janfields So I started by reading all these stacks of magazines that my mom horded (that woman never threw away anything)
janfields and then I sent queries to those magazines.
janfields And sold stuff to them.
janfields I got the addresses from the magazine itself
janfields and the editor name.
janfields That's the only way I knew to do it.
janfields And even today, when I have newsletters and market guides, and online
janfields I still tend to go back to the magazines because when you know the magazine as a READER
janfields it's so much easier to sell to it.
janfields Because editors want to buy from folks who sound like readers of their magazine.
janfields It's a time consuming process to get to know a magazine that well.
janfields But it means you can sell to them more consistently.
janfields And..well... I probably lucked up a lot too.
craftymama The SCBWI is so expensive, is it really a good idea for a new writer to shell out that much money??
janfields Well...if you plan to go to the conferences...yes
janfields And the newsletter thing they send out is super
janfields And it is tax deductable if you actually make money as a writer
janfields But it's only one way to move closer to where you want to go as a writer.
janfields There are lots of ways.
janfields I had been writing for a lot of years before I joined SCBWI
janfields Again, I just didn't know about them.
janfields I actually like belonging to the organization for writers
janfields It "feels" right and since I'm focused primarily on childen's writing, I choose SCBWI
janfields But I can't say I get worth of good out of it every year
janfields Your location can make a difference, cathie
janfields Some branches are much more active
janfields The New England area is very busy with things to do.
janfields Still, when you're starting out you have to weigh a lot of expenses
janfields When I was starting out I didn't spend anything I didn't have to.
janfields I didn't send SASEs (even though everyone said you had to) because publishers never sent the dang things back to me
janfields And I refused to spend the money if I wasn't getting the envelope back.
janfields That's how cheap I was.
janfields I used cereal boxes to make photo mailers for photos I sent with my articles
janfields That's how cheap I was.
janfields Today...heck, I can afford to do more, but I also make a lot more sales.
janfields Well...actually we're passed 10pm
janfields I know I didn't answer everything...I promise to catch them all in next Friday's eNews.
janfields I just want to post a link that someone sent, I think to the wish list?
writerx http://www.verlakay.com/boards/index.php?topic=12589.0
janfields I believe that is it
janfields Thanks for coming all
janfields And I'm always happy with the great questions.
janfields Good night

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